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Post by Sherry & Kipper on Jun 29, 2023 7:27:16 GMT -7
☆ 1 still currently pain? No *Generally [?] no pain☆2 18lbs, will be 7 on 7/30/23 * Not currently on any meds☆ 4 Cavalier King Charles Spaniel, Kipper ☆ 5 Doc is ACVIM neurologist ☆ 6 Surgery 5/30/23Neurologist released Kipper from strict crate rest after examination at 4 weeks. -- at home PT? Practice standing, slowly lowering to sit and stand again. Also bicycle movement of rear legs. ☆ 7 He can sniff, squat and pee. Has also begun trying to lift leg(s). ☆ 8 He does ‘wobbly’ walk.
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PaulaM
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Post by PaulaM on Jun 29, 2023 12:09:26 GMT -7
Sherry, welcome to the Forum. We are glad you have joined us. Good news to hear Kipper is now 4 weeks post op and has the ability to wobbly walk. And gaining better balance to lift a leg at pee time!! We'd love to know how you found us? Do you have an area of particular concern we can speak to? When are the times you are seeing pain in reference to generally in "Generally no pain"?
Let me share a few things about his Graduation on 6/27 that may be helpful to you. Dog's born with IVDD may have only one disc episode their entire life. My had hers at one year old and never had another her long life. However, it is not unusual that IVDD dogs could have multiple disc episodes. So best you have a sense about the disease and how to handle things for living many happy years ahead: 🚩 Excellent way for you to get the big picture quickly: ==> Shortcut Thru IVDD GRADUATION, A SLOW RE-INTRODUCTION Determine how you are going to ease back into more normal activity at graduation from rest. The idea is to gradually give more freedom under controlled conditions. Not free rein of the house and yard immediately! LOL Your dog's muscles are soft and out of shape after the post-op 4 week rest period. Gradually build up his muscles and lungs. Take a look at our information. Gradually building your dogs muscles over a month's time will have your dog safely running and having fun again! SAMPLE SCHEDULE Here is a sample schedule to safely and slowly introduce your dog back to family life and physical activity: dodgerslist.com/2020/06/15/back-friendly/?highlight=sample%20scheduleDIY back PROTECTION around the house 1) Good ideas in making your home back friendly: dodgerslist.com/2020/07/09/home-protect-ivdd-backs/2) Ideas and products to provide improved traction for wobbly dogs where there are smooth floors: dodgerslist.com/2022/10/08/traction-solution-improvements/3) Teach your dog to be safe and not jumping up or down, but to use a ramp whether over steps leading outdoors or to furniture in the house. Dogs are best at visual learning rather than verbal commands. Dog trainer Anna Jane Grossman says “Dogs learn in pictures. Inside your dog’s brain is a very simple algorithm – pleasant images in one place and unpleasant images in another."
HAPPY DAYS AHEAD 1) Lots more ideas and tips in living with an IVDD dog such as dentals, nail trims, safe ways to have fun together, and more: dodgerslist.com/living-with-ivdd-tips-2 PT THERAPY AT CLINIC or HOME Safety first. You should always consult with a veterinarian before starting any exercise program with your dog. For example, although senior dogs need to stay limber, severe arthritis might make certain movements inappropriate. If your dog can wobbly walk he may or may no longer like you doing passive exercises for him. -- Water therapy exercises at home: dodgerslist.com/2020/05/28/surgery-dog-water-therapy-- After post-op rest it is now safe to begin daily at home PT -- Strengthening core muscles. This applies not just for humans, but REALLY applies to the IVDD dog: "...improve the strength and coordination of the muscles that surround the spine so they can act like the world's greatest back and neck brace." www.spineuniverse.com/conditions/spondylosis Core exercises don't require specialized equipment. Here are 5 exercises you can do at home: totofit.com/five-basic-exercises-essential-to-building-core-strength/
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Post by Sherry & Kipper on Jun 29, 2023 19:28:17 GMT -7
Hi!
I found you through a FB IVDD group.
I seem to have an even busier life now watching Kipper like a hawk since he’s not strictly confined to his suite/crate. I wonder how long it’ll be before he can walk on non carpeted surfaces? I’ve looked at several of the listed ramps and got sticker shocked…after all we’ve already spent. I’m wondering if life will ever remotely be the same, worrying about another occurrence. He’s such an active guy, like a racehorse out of the gate😁! All that to say, I guess I have many questions!
Kipper has a history of crying out and we don’t know why. He did this in his crate today. Maybe his paws? The surgeon cut his nails for him and got too close. When we walk they get bloody. He also acted like he was painful during a bicycling PT a couple times (surgeon wasn’t concerned). I’m going to be extra reactive to these screeches!
Thanks for your reply!!❤️
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Post by Marjorie on Jun 30, 2023 5:55:46 GMT -7
Do take it very slowly with the PT. Kip's muscles have weakened from the four weeks of strict crate rest and it's only been a month since he's had major surgery. PT needs to be done very carefully and slowly. If you see any pain or resistance with the PT, let him rest for a bit and then try again. You can lay a towel warmed in the dryer on his legs before doing the exercises to relax him and to relax his muscles. Since Kipper can wobbly walk, slow, gradually increased walking is the best exercise for him. Do check with the surgeon before increasing his walking.
Since Kipper has a history of crying out, there are other signs of pain that you can be aware of and on the lookout for to determine if there is any suspcion that he's having another IVDD episode. If you have any suspicion that he's having another disc episode in the future, do immediately crate him to protect his spine and then seek medical attention. The signs of pain to look for are the following:
◻︎ restless, pacing, can’t find a comfortable position ◻︎reluctant to move much in crate such as shift positions ◻︎shivering-trembling ◻︎yelping when picked up or moved ◻︎slow to move ◻︎tight tense tummy ◻︎arched back, ears pinned back ◻︎ head held high or nose to the ground. ◻︎looks up with just eyes and does not move head and neck easily. ◻︎ not eating due to pain of moving jaw with a neck disc or pain of back disc ◻︎ holds front or back leg flamingo style not wanting to bear weight ◻︎not their normal perky selves
If a ramp is out of your price range right now, do look at the link Paula gave above on how to protect IVDD backs. There are directions on how to make furniture blockers to prevent Kipper from jumping on chairs/couches. Or just use two big pillows to block it. Or you can shut off rooms with those couches or chairs. The best place for an IVDD dog is the floor. Take as many egg-crate mattress toppers as you think will be comfy (3 work well) or a 4-inch memory foam mattress topper and cover it with a quilt, comforter, or blanket. Throw lots of pillows and blankets on top and, voila, you’ve created a comfy, cozy den. Carry Kipper up and down any steps leading to the outside or stairs to a second floor. Inexpensive carpet runners or cheap yoga mats can be found to help with Kipper's traction on slippery floors. Keep the fur on the pads of his feet trimmed to help with traction. There are lots of IVDD tips on the Dodgerslist website and in the links that Paula gave above.
It's excellent that Kipper can wobbly walk so soon after surgery. Healing can take time, weeks, even months. It took my Jeremy a year to wobbly walk after surgery so Kipper is doing very well indeed.
Please do know that the worry does get better with time. The best way to ease that worry is to become a mini-expert on IVDD. Learn all that you can so you're prepared and know what to do to help Kipper through his IVDD journey. You mentioned having lots of questions. That's what we're here for and we do hope that you'll reach out to us with any questions or concerns. We're here for you and Kipper and will help you in any way that we can. We've all been there and do understand. Take it one day at a time and try not to look too far into the future as none of us know what that holds. Enjoy every minute that you have with Kipper. Healing prayers.
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Post by Sherry & Kipper on Jun 30, 2023 18:56:24 GMT -7
What a reassurance you are! Exactly what I needed! It’s easy to not see there’s going to be a clear way to successfully make it through all this with our beloved companions! It’s so valuable knowing you have been there and understand! You answered all my concerns, thank you! I truly am enjoying him like never before even life has changed! What a HUGE help you all are!!!!❤️
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