daver
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Post by daver on Aug 19, 2013 16:09:52 GMT -7
--What is your dog's name? Scooter
--What breed is your dog and did you specifically get a diagnosis of IVDD? Miniature Dachshund
-- What was the date you saw the vet and started 100% STRICT crate rest 24/7? August 19, 2013
-- Is there still currently pain - shivering, trembling, yelping when picked up or moved, reluctant/slow to move head or body, tight hard tummy? Not really, but exhibits head lift in odd position. Before the ER vet, he did have alot of pain, shaking, yelped once, and had a tight tummy.
-- What are the exact names of meds currently given, their doses in mgs and frequencies? Tramadol 50mg tabs: 1/2 tab up to every 8 hours
-- Currently can your dog wobbly walk? move the legs at all? or wag the tail when you do some happy talk? He can wag his tail, has deep tissue sensation in his rear, but does not use his legs much
-- Do you find wet bedding or leaks on you when lifted up? Once in awhile, pee pads in place and holding off on trying to express him manually unless he doesn't pee on his own. Watching carefully.
-- Eating and drinking OK? Loved the chicken and rice I made him. Had some water and plan on making him some chicken broth ice cubes to lick (low sodium). He was given fluids overnight and the dehydration is gone. Offering water whenever he seems awake and upright. (like changing positions)
-- Poops OK - normal color no dark or bright red blood? No poops home yet. But had one at the vet overnight.
Hi all, some of you may know my wife, Christina Roome, from Facebook and her work with the many Dachshund rescue groups there. Our boy Scooter, aged 4-5 years, exhibited symptoms of pain on Sunday, and we took him in to be seen. We had another dachshund, Brownie, who went through this and eventually had to have surgery, as he was just plain paralyzed. Scooter was hurting an dehydrated, and had a general lethargy. After ruling out lots of things, they gave us a preliminary diagnosis of IDVV. Pain management and crate rest, no jumping, playing, or acting crazy is the order. He came to us with a bonded doxxie named Shadow, and they are lying next to each other in the dog bed. Our other dogs can sense something is wrong with him and are being very careful around him. We have a smallish crate right now, to restrict him when he is not under our supervision. On Friday I plan to build his suite and make him more secure. We've gone through some of this before, but it's scary when one of your babies is hurting. We will, however, do what it takes to get him better.
Forgot to mention we're doing a little bit of pumpkin each day (about a tablespoon) to make sure he doesn't have to push to hard to poop. If I see his stool get too loose, I'll cut back on that.
Thanks!
Dave
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caringpea
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Post by caringpea on Aug 19, 2013 19:44:00 GMT -7
Do you have papaya where you live? I give my dog that and he loves it.
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Post by Pauliana on Aug 19, 2013 20:29:27 GMT -7
Welcome to Dodgerslist Dave! I am so sorry to hear of Scooter's IVDD. You can be instrumental in helping your dog recover. It takes being a reader as not all vets know this disease…but you certainly can know just one disease. So that you can have an informed discussion with the vet, please read up on these pertinent pages: www.dodgerslist.com/healingindex.htmwww.dodgerslist.com/literature.htmwww.dodgerslist.com/literature/healingsurgery.htmWith a disc problem, it takes 8 weeks of strict crate rest to let the disc heal. Otherwise the weak scar tissue forming can easily be re-torn and the pain, more vet bills, the cycle of healing has to start all over again. Since your crate rest started on August 19th, Scooter will need to be on 100% strict crate rest for a full 8 weeks from that date. You can't count the first week when his movements were being limited, only the time he's on strict crate rest. Strict crate rest means only to be carried in and out to potty with very few steps being taken during potty time. No laps, no couch, no sleeping in bed with you, no meandering, scooting or dragging around during potty times. No baths, no chiro (aka VOM). Pumpkin is a magical fruit - its high fiber can firm up stools and help with diarrhea or loosen the stool to help with constipation. The amount of water in the diet makes all the difference. To loosen the stool, add equal parts water to each kibble meal along with a teaspoon of plain canned pureed pumpkin 1x a day. To firm up the stool add 1 teaspoon pumpkin to kibble and no extra water 1x a day. Note alternatives: really ripe mashed fresh pear, just take off the peel off; microwaved and mashed peeled sweet potoato. The page with expressing for urine and for poop is here: www.dodgerslist.com/literature/Expressing.htmCan you give us a bit more in essential information about your dog: --I don't see any mention of an anti inflammatory being prescribed for Scooter. IVDD involves swelling and inflammation with the disc pressing or rupturing into the spinal cord. A Steriod or NSAID (Never both together) needs to be prescribed for Scooter. It's the swelling and inflammation that causes the pain.. Please read this: www.dodgerslist.com/literature/healingsweling.htm-- Please include the must have stomach protector such as Pepcid AC … 5mg 30 mins prior to the anti inflammatory, to protect Scooter's tummy. Please ask your vet if there are any health reasons why Scooter shouldn't take Pepcid AC. Tell him you want to be proactive about protecting him from the side effects of the anti inflammatory once it's been prescribed. The anti-inflammatory will help to bring the swelling of the disc down. It's the disc pressing into the spine that is causing nerve damage, which you see as Scooters loss of control in his hind legs. The crate acts as a cast for his back. Too much movement will tear the disc more, resulting in more nerve damage. Please read this webpage carefully so you'll understand all the ins and outs of crate rest and how to set up a recovery suite for Scooter. dodgerslist.com/literature/CrateRRP.htm Try to stay positive. Tell Scooter that he's getting better every day. And believe that he will, because with the proper care, he can improve. Nerves take a long time to heal so you may not see any improvement in weeks or months. We know that the disc heals in 8 weeks but there's no way of knowing if or when the nerves will heal. Time will tell. Hang in there. You've done the right thing getting him into that crate. And laser therapy and acupuncture can be very helpful in managing pain and in giving the nerves a jump start in healing. Please keep us updated.
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daver
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Post by daver on Aug 20, 2013 16:42:24 GMT -7
Caring, one quick question. Should the papaya be fresh and mushed up, or can I sub baby food? I'm thinking baby food might have other things in it that Scooter shouldn't have (like a lot of sugar).
Slept with Scooter last night, Him in the dog bed with the blanket towel fortress around him. He didn't wake up much or fuss. I laid next to him on the floor all night and fell asleep right next to him. I think it comforts him this way.
Took all meds well today and ate good portions of his chicken and rice. He does NOT like pumpkin, so we're going to try some papaya tomorrow. His pain seems to be under control, no shaking and little head raising. He wagged his tail when I took him out to pee, even though I had to express him.
He has not had a BM since he got home, but to be fair, he's not eating his regular amount of food, and didn't eat much the day he went to the ER vet. Apparently he didn't eat much their either. He did drink good amounts of water today.
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Post by PaulaM on Aug 20, 2013 17:44:44 GMT -7
DAve you are looking for a high fiber food to help with constipation. Select a very ripe fresh pear, microwave and mash up a sweet potatoe. Even a microwaved mashed white potatoe will work.
Good to hear pain is under control and he is only on one med…. a pain reliever Tramadol. That is unusual in that typically an anti-inflammatory is needed to do the work of reducing swelling in the spinal cord. How often are you actually giving 25mgs Tramadol?
As soon as you can work a transition back to his kibble the better his nutrition will be to take care of all the repair jobs his body is working on. Chicken and rice are ok for a couple of days.
Is he staying dry in between expressing times?
You are doing a good job of being aware and meeting Scooter's needs!
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daver
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Post by daver on Aug 20, 2013 18:34:08 GMT -7
Thanks for the vote of confidence, it does help!
Roger all on the fiber, I'll try a pear!
He is taking the Tramadol [25mg] every 8 hours and it seems to last dose to dose.
I'm going to start mixing in his normal food tomorrow and see how that goes. He does like a bit of wet food too.
He's mostly dry, but when I pick him up and take him out, he sometimes gets a bit on Daddy. :-)
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Post by PaulaM on Aug 20, 2013 20:19:27 GMT -7
Dave, you will get the expressing schedule down pat… the leaking when lifted is telling you to check on him a little sooner. Until you have the schedule perfected, do what I did. I had a stack of washcloths by the recovery suite. Grab one to cover Scooter and keep you dry. They are fast to wash up and hang to dry, if the washing machine doesn't have a full load to do.
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Post by caringpea on Aug 20, 2013 20:21:41 GMT -7
I'm sorry about the late response. We are 12 hours ahead here. I mash the papaya up for my dog. I don't want him to be chewing too much as he has a cervical problem there. If he gets carrots, I slice them thinly for him as well.
Seems like lots of dogs are on Tramadol. Doesn't work on my dog. He was still in severe pain 5 weeks ago.
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Post by daver on Aug 21, 2013 4:33:20 GMT -7
Thanks, Caring! We'll see how today goes. So far, he's more alert today and tried to escape his temporary suite. That's not happening again. Attempted to express for a BM and he moved his tail up and down a bit, but I can't feel it yet. I think todays going to be the day.
He ate a little chicken and some of his kibble for breakfast. I added some chicken broth to the kibble and he liked that. He has soft treats that he loves (not much chewing) and he ate one of those after I broke it up a little. Big, big pee and then drank a good amount of water.
I can tell he's bored, confused, and itching to play, but I know we have to keep him rested.
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Post by caringpea on Aug 22, 2013 1:51:57 GMT -7
Oh yes, that's what we do to get him to take in more fluids. Broth!
My dog, Pea, successfully escaped today. I came home to find him sniffing at the door. I was horrified. He was supposed to be crated. And then he started jumping a lot when he saw me too. I am so worried all the crate resting will be undone. Sending you loads of good thoughts half the world over.
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Post by Yvonne & Billy on Aug 22, 2013 13:13:20 GMT -7
Our fur-babies sure have a way with giving us heart attacks! Sending everyone lots of well wishes and good karma! How cute are Scooter and Pea?!?!?! Awesome dog mom and dad!!!!!
Best, Yvonne
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