jennie
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My biggest fear is that I can't aford surgery for my Doxie.
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Post by jennie on Aug 13, 2013 18:23:37 GMT -7
I have a ?, If a Doxie has IVDD, is surgery the way to go to have it fixed or will it show up again in a different spot and mean more surgery? My Doxie was not diagnose with this yet. She was not injured far as we know. Her right side started to drop and we took her right to the vets they gave her a shot. This happened last week on Tuesday.But going back to the vets tomorrow after her being in the crate for a week and on steroids and muscle relaxants for a week and will be on the steroids for a few more weeks. She is able to walk like she did before this happened to her.
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PaulaM
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Post by PaulaM on Aug 13, 2013 19:04:58 GMT -7
Jennie, glad to see you have joined us here on the forum. What is your doxie's name? I sounds like you caught the symptoms early and already you are seeing the nerves comes back. Can you fill us in on a few details so we know better how to support you? -- What was the date you saw the vet and started the all important 100% STRICT crate rest 24/7 only out to potty …. No laps, no couch, no sleeping in bed with you, no meandering, scooting or dragging around during potty times. No baths, no chiro (aka VOM)? -- Is there still currently pain - shivering, trembling, yelping when picked up or moved, reluctant to move much or slow to move, tight tense tummy? -- What are the exact names of meds currently given, their doses in mgs and frequencies? Please include the all important stomach protector such as Pepcid AC. Phrase the question to your vet this particular way:" Is there a medical/health reason for my dog not take Pepcid?" If there is no reason, we follow vets who are proactive in stomach protection by giving doxies 5mg Pepcid (famotidine) 30 minutes before the steroid. Has the steroid been scheduled for a taper yet? -- Eating and drinking OK? -- Poops OK - normal color, firmness, no dark or bright red blood? With a dog born with degenerative disc disease any of the discs are at potential to prematurely age. It an be the same disc having an other problem down the line or a different. This is the nasty part of this disease that there is no predicting if a dog only has one disc episode their entire life or multiple. Getting up to speed will play an instrumental role in a good recovery this time and help you to understand the disease should another happen. I recommend to start with these two pages: www.dodgerslist.com/literature/healingpage.htm [how healing takes place during a disc episode] www.dodgerslist.com/healingindex.htm [Shortcut thru IVDD so you know how to fight the enemy and win!]
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jennie
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My biggest fear is that I can't aford surgery for my Doxie.
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Post by jennie on Aug 13, 2013 19:44:06 GMT -7
Her name is Emma. We saw the vet on August 6th. we started that day it happened before we went to the vet. Seam to be no pain at this time. She is eating and going potty good. Her poop is normal. Emma was on methocarbamol 150 mg for 5 days took the last one yesterday. She is on▼ Prednisone 5mg was 1 tablet twice a day starting tomorrow it will be once a day for 14 days. She goes back tomorrow to the vets to be checked she has been in her crate since August 6th. Only coming out to go potty. My biggest fear is not able to give her surgery if she needs it. Due to the price I will Have my husband ask about the Pepcid Ac tomorrow. Thank You
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PaulaM
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Post by PaulaM on Aug 13, 2013 20:12:46 GMT -7
Excellent that pain med, methocarbamol has been stopped and the taper is so far showing no signs of pain arising. Go my fingers crossed for a smooth completion of the taper. Then all that remains is the healing of the disc itself…that takes 8 weeks of 100% STRICT crate rest. Your catching this very early and committed to 100% STRICT crate rst 2/47 for 8 weeks should avoid surgery. Keep up the good work!
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jennie
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Post by jennie on Aug 14, 2013 19:09:43 GMT -7
Emma went to the vets today, the vet was surprised how well she is doing.. My husband Asked her all the questions I had on a piece of paper I gave him.. So she said 2 more weeks in the crate till she goes back to the vets.. She goes back to the vets on September29th.. she will still be [tapering] on the steroids till September 17th, then see how she does then off them..
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Post by jochs311 on Aug 14, 2013 20:27:38 GMT -7
Hi Jennie, my name is Jen. I'm sorry to hear about Emma. 100% STRICT crate rest only out to potty is the best medicine as long as pain is under control. While on the prednisone you should be giving her a stomach protector like Pepcid AC. Prednisone is really hard on their stomach. You'd want to give it 1/2 hour before the prednisone and give the prednisone with her food. Ask your vet if there is any reason that she shouldn't take Pepcid with the steroid. Also talk to your vet about tapering off the prednisone. Don't just stop it! It can cause withdraw. You need to taper a steroid. Please read as much as you can here. It will really ease your mind and make conservative treatment easier. We just graduated our 8 weeks of crate rest with our Tucker. He was paralyzed and lost bladder control. It was scary. With the reaserch and support I got from Dodgerslist Tucker is now wobbly walking! Conservative treatment works. You just have up be patient with it. Sending healing thoughts and positive prayers your way!
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Post by Nancy & Polly on Aug 15, 2013 13:31:56 GMT -7
Did you mean August rather than September?
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jennie
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Post by jennie on Aug 16, 2013 16:55:49 GMT -7
Emma will be done September 17, but starting August 28th she will be getting the pill [Pred] every other day... to taper her off it. They said we could do the Pepcid ac if we wanted to, due to her not being on it long term, but I'm going tomorrow to pick some up for her.. This sight is great I learned a lot, wish I know about it last year when we had to put our 3 year old Molly down She was paralyzed , they said the best thing to do was put her down, due to her only having a 5- 10 % chance. I do feel bad for Emma having to stay in her crate even though she shows great improvement, but I'm not taking any chances...
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Post by Sabrina on Aug 16, 2013 19:52:44 GMT -7
Hi Jennie, I'm Sabrina. I'm so glad you're going to get Emma started on the pepcid - it seems that a lot of vets aren't very proactive about stomach protection, and the problem is that once dogs start showing symptoms of GI trouble the problem (ulcer, etc) can be quickly escalating. Pepcid 30min before the pred will help to keep problems from developing. You and Emma already have to deal with IVDD - you don't want to add a bleeding ulcer to the mix! www.dodgerslist.com/literature/IVDDcourse/medications_used.htmlI am sorry you lost your Molly last year. It is so hard to say goodbye; no matter how long we have with our dogs it never is long enough, is it? )))Hugs!((( Keep up the good work with the crate rest! Even though it's wonderful that Emma's improving, she doesn't yet have enough scar tissue developed to protect her healing disc. (see #3 here: www.dodgerslist.com/literature/conservative.htm ) Emma is improving because you are giving her the rest she needs - hang in there for the full 8 wks! )Hugs!( - Sabrina
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jennie
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My biggest fear is that I can't aford surgery for my Doxie.
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Post by jennie on Aug 18, 2013 8:17:23 GMT -7
Thank you
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