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Post by Lauren & Lacie on Jan 7, 2014 12:21:55 GMT -7
Lacies nose isn't wet it seems more dry is that related to her situation? Or why is that?
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Post by Sherry Layman on Jan 7, 2014 14:09:18 GMT -7
The moisture on a dogs nose is not indicative of anything. Sometimes they are wet, sometimes dry. Nothing to worry about.
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Post by Lauren & Lacie on Jan 7, 2014 14:49:04 GMT -7
I thought if they're cold and wet it indicates a 'healthy dog' ...just thought maybe the pred had something to do with it.
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Post by Sherry Layman on Jan 7, 2014 15:51:04 GMT -7
The temperature and moisture of a dogs nose is not indicative of health or illness. The medications your dog is on should not be impacting this in anyway.
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Post by Lauren & Lacie on Jan 22, 2014 15:18:20 GMT -7
Hello I havnt posted in a while, it's kind of the same old same old I have been tapering the prednisone for the last few weeks and im giving her 1/4 in am and pm. Friday I am supposed to taper again and just called vet to see what to change it to. But she wasn't there and won't be until Sat. Do u know what I should do? Like skip the am time? I know she will want me to bring her in Sat anyway to do exam and give liver test. I said I cant afford blood work and she said she could do one test for $25. Lacie can walk but sometimes stumbles but is doing well and can wag tail etc. Please let me know if u know the next taper step. Im gona have the other doctor call me and get his input but im thinking I might have to call the nuerologist. But I dont want to because they were never too reachable or friendly and I can guess she'd say 'come in' and she charges over $100 and then there's the tests she'd want.
the other vet just called me and said to give her one fourth in the mornings only ..starting Friday ..mand that depending what's wrong with her she could be on prednisone for a long time like if its auto immune . I said she has been on it since November and I heard you are not supposed to be on prednisone for that long and he had mentioned she might have to be on it all her life...so getting diff answers. but I said she is doing really well and has not worsened even with tapering
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Post by Marjorie on Jan 22, 2014 17:48:57 GMT -7
It sounds as though Lacie is doing well on the taper, Lauren - no signs of pain and no worsening of condition. I would just continue to take it one day at a time and hopefully she will be able to continue to taper off of the Pred. If she continues to the end of the taper with no pain and no worsening of condition, then she can graduate from crate rest and gradually be re-introduced to movement again.
Please keep us updated on how the taper goes. Prayers are continuing for Lacie.
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Post by Lauren & Lacie on Jan 29, 2014 6:12:59 GMT -7
Its going to be a long taper. Now its 1/4 only in mornings. Not evenings anymore. Im still doing pepcid....should that be cut in half? Its 5mg a half hour before the pred. Ive already let lacie walk as the vet said it was ok and she doesnt do it too much. But still no pain and shes doing great.
Forgot to say that the next taper will be 'every other day'
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Post by Jean & Mimi on Jan 29, 2014 7:39:52 GMT -7
Lauren, so glad Lacie is doing well. I know this has been a long haul for you, but Lacie is so lucky to have you I would keep giving the Pepcid until she is finished. It just keeps the stomach safe from from the steriod.
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Post by Marjorie on Jan 29, 2014 9:07:41 GMT -7
Lauren, it's most important that you keep Lacie on strict crate rest until she is completely off of the meds. Until she is off of the meds, there is no way of knowing whether the swelling is gone or not. If there is still swelling, she should continue to have limited movement. Swelling presses on the spine and nerve damage can result if there is too much movement. I realize what a long time Lacie has had in the crate but it's truly best to continue to limit her movement until all meds have stopped.
Please continue to give the Pepcid AC 30 mins before the Prednisone and then every 12 hours thereafter (twice a day) for as long as Lacie is on the Pred.
I'm very glad that there are no signs of pain and that Lacie is doing so well. It's a very slow taper but it will be finished and then Lacie can gradually be re-introduced to movement.
All the best to you both.
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Post by Lauren & Lacie on Jan 29, 2014 11:26:23 GMT -7
I am giving the pepcid 5mg once a day. That was the plan from the start. Omly once in 24 hrs. So I was asking if it made sense to lower the pepcid as well since the dose of pred is lowered. Prednisone 1/4 tablet once a day only. In mornings. Next week I have to start giving that dose every other day. So what should the pepcid dose be now and then for when I start the every other day pred?
Lacie walks aroind on the carpet only, she cant do hard floor. Mostly sleeps in living room by me and other dog. The vet said she could do that and can walk if she wants to and the nuerologist knows and didnt say that was not allowed. I dont encourage her to do much ...I dont let her run or jump ..she doesnt try to jump either. I think she knows what shes comfortable doing. She still sleeps seperate in her crate on a puppy pad, she doesnt go bathroom on the shared potty area if I put her there to try because I dont think she knows to go there anymore...only on her cage pad. But she isn't in any pain for a while now and can wag her tail and bark, eat tiny treats (put pills in a little bread) (give her tiny peice of banana) . She barks at my baby like she wants to play, and today she got one of her old dog toys and played a little. Most of the time shes laying around and not doing anything strenuous. Thanks guys for saying im doing great with her...she has come A LONG way from when this began.
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Post by Lauren & Lacie on Mar 11, 2014 11:33:39 GMT -7
Just wanted to update this..Lacie is doing well and off all medications. She was on prednisone for a while as it was being tapered. She just had her last 1/4 prednisone Friday. (Which was every other day) the nuerologist and vet agreed theres no need to do every 3rd day so shes just off pred. She can walk but not jump, which I wouldnt let her. She stumbles sometimes when she wants to play with a toy and she doesnt play too rambunctiously with our other chi because I think she knows her own limits. I dont know if she will ever be 100% but were just happy she isnt in pain and can walk and play etc. She doesnt walk on wood floor but luckily we have carpet. Her cage is in kitchen and she cant walk on that floor so sje still pees in her bed on a pad..I tried to train her to go on the pad in FRONT of their beds but she peed the bed instead. Hopefully she can learn to pee outside soon or outside of bedding. I dont scratch her neck or touch it because im scared it would hurt her or at least make her think it might hurt. The vet wants me to bring her in one more time soon so I might do that and to see if neck is still sensitive. Thank you to everyone here for the help and support during the horrible time while she was in pain and healing. It was the best help I had. I hope she never goes through it again but if she does I will be back here and I wont give up on her like I didnt this time. Should I be doing anything else or be aware of anything going forward? Lauren
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Post by PaulaM on Mar 11, 2014 12:20:08 GMT -7
Lauren congratulations on Lacie finally being off all meds, doing the crate rest and doing so well. Now you will want to ease her back into physical activity, so she can begin to strengthen her core muscles...the ones that support the back/spine. There's a sample plan on this page: www.dodgerslist.com/literature/AfterCrateRest.htm Observe how the amount of exercise is tolerated. The distance or time can slowly be increased weekly over the next 2 months. If there is pain, difficulty walking stop the exersise right away and consult your vet. Low impact activity such as leash walking and swiming are good low impact exercise.
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Post by Jean & Mimi on Mar 11, 2014 13:16:25 GMT -7
Lauren, I am sooo happy for you! I know how long a haul it has been for Lacie and you. Enjoy the snuggles with your sweet baby girl. As a suggestion for the kitchen, perhaps purchase one or two of the rubber pads that you put in the bottom of the bathtub to keep you from slipping for the kitchen. We have one where Mimi's food dish is so she can stand perfectly and have her food. They are super easy to keep clean so they work well for kitchens. Just a suggestion
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Post by Lauren & Lacie on Mar 11, 2014 13:35:12 GMT -7
Thank u I will def get some rubber type mats!! And as far as exercise...we live in an apartment so all she does is walk around living room or bedroom and play with other dog or our baby. She hasnt been outside since her problem started..mainly cuz of all the snow and freezing weather. She has been active for a couple months now since her pain stopped. Im concerned with the uneven ground outside and if that would cause pain or tripping.
Also WOULD IF this all happens again? would I just do the process all over again or do her chances of healing decrease? I will review those after ivdd steps some more, I have followed them but sometimes she shakes a toy with her head , how can I prevent that besides removing toys?
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Post by Marjorie on Mar 12, 2014 6:52:53 GMT -7
Some dogs only have one episode during their entire lives while others have more episodes. All we can is make our home as back friendly as we can to protect their backs. Here are some tips if you haven't seen them yet: www.dodgerslist.com/literature/protectback.htmYou do need to discourage her from shaking toys with her head. If you see her doing that, try to distract her with something else. If my Jeremy feels like "killing" his toys, I get his leash and take him out for a bit, even if we just walk around the yard for a few minutes. Or I take the toy he's shaking from him and give him one of his toys that he just likes to chew on. Once the weather improves, it would be a good idea to take her out for short walks, using a halter and leash, gradually increasing the walks as Paula recommended. That will strengthen the muscles in her legs and around her spine. Exercise, gradually re-introduced, will keep her back strong. If you see signs of a problem again (pain or loss of neuro function), immediately crate Lacie and take her in for an exam. You're armed with much more knowledge now than you were when Lacie first showed signs of a problem. And we'll be here to help you, if need be. Hopefully, she'll be one of the dogs that never have another problem. Blessings to you both.
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Post by Lauren & Lacie on Apr 27, 2014 7:41:57 GMT -7
Hello! I just have a question about Lacies skin...it has been flaky lately do you have an idea why? Does it have to do with her taking meds previously? Or the food she eats? (Nutro small bites)
Lauren
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Post by PaulaM on Apr 29, 2014 7:50:25 GMT -7
Dry skin could be due to diet. You may want to join a List that is dedicated to nutrition and run by Monica Segal, certified in Animal Health Care through the University of Guelph with studies in animal nutrition, physiology. You can lurk and learn alot that way or you can choose to ask a question pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/K9Kitchen/
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Post by Lauren & Lacie on Apr 29, 2014 8:13:48 GMT -7
Thank you !!
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