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Post by Allison & PennyLane on Apr 28, 2015 7:35:47 GMT -7
Hello everyone! It's been a few years since I've been on here, but I'm happy to say my own IVDD dog has been doing quite well. She's the boss of the house despite her back issues and is a happy girl! We've learned a LOT since we adopted her in 2009 and we've sort of become the "go-to" back dog information people locally. It's been a passion of mine to help educate folks dealing with IVDD. This board saved me when we went through our initial experience and I'm happy to pay it forward for others.  So this morning, a friend of mine connected me with another friend of hers that works with a local rescue. She is fostering a dog that must be expressed (I'm assuming the dog had a back issue, I haven't yet talked to her, just preparing). It is an older female dog and they are wanting to spay this dog. So my question is as I can't imagine doing it... How do you express a dog while it is recovering from a spay surgery? This is apparently the big question this person is dealing with and I am stumped! Personally, I wouldn't do it.  But I'm also willing to admit this is where my knowledge gets lost. Thoughts? Suggestions? |
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Post by Debbie Blackwelder on Apr 28, 2015 8:14:18 GMT -7
Hello, and Welcome back to Dodgerslist! You have a great question there and I am not so sure I can answer that. Paula or Linda or one of the other great moderators on here should stop by later and maybe they can answer that question for you. I would say this would be a good question to ask a neuro-surgeon about. We express dogs after IVDD surgery and now most vet's make very small incisions when spaying, so it might work out. Thank you so much for helping other IVDD dogs, do you order your free literature from Dodgerslist to pass out? Here is the link: www.dodgerslist.com/literature/litorder.htmI keep an arsenal in my purse wherever I go. Have you ever considered being a moderator here on Dodgerslist? We are always looking for dedicated individuals who care and are passionate about IVDD. Contact Paula if you are interested. Have a great day, Debbie |
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Post by Debbie Blackwelder on Apr 28, 2015 14:38:36 GMT -7
Mrs. Linda Stowe, the owner of Dodgerslist contacted Amy at University of Florida, where she is a Neuro Tech. She says, "Use a catherater."
Hope this helps. What is your name? I'm Debbie.
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Post by Allison & PennyLane on Apr 28, 2015 14:54:15 GMT -7
Ahh thank you Debbie! I'm Allison. I had an old account on here, but couldn't remember my old sign in info. My dog that has IVDD is Penny Lane, though we also now have a 2nd dachsie, Truman. This reinforces why I brag about this forum all of the time as a wonderful, supportive resource! Thank you all for such a quick response. I had also wondered about a catheter, but wasn't sure, so that's wonderful to hear that from someone that is a pro! I will pass this info along to the foster and to the rescue as well as pass along a link to Dodgerslist! Thank you so very, very much! |
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Post by Debbie Blackwelder on Apr 28, 2015 21:33:43 GMT -7
Hey Allison, I just wanted to add one thing about doing the spay on the IVDD pup.
For all breeds prone to IVDD or any dog that has been diagnosed with IVDD. You never know when/if the first episode will happen with breeds prone to IVDD. IVDD dogs have a special risk whenever they are under anesthesia. You already know that an IVDD dog is always at risk for a future injury due to degenerating discs. You need to treat IVDD as a lifelong disorder that goes into remission but can pop up again at any time.
When dogs go under, risk is increased. The dog loses all muscle tone and support. If the surgical team is not careful, lifting or turning the dog the wrong way could potentially cause a secondary disc injury. It is rare but it can happen.
Please keep this in mind any time your dog goes under for a dental or medical imaging or any other reason. Make sure that whoever is working with your dog understands that your dog has IVDD, and they need to take special care to support your dog's spine before, during, and after anesthesia.
The entire article can be found here: www.dodgerslist.com/literature/IVDDcourse/precautions.html
Thanks again for spreading the word about DODGERSLIST!!! Give Penny Lane and Truman a hug. Deb |
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Post by Pauliana on Apr 29, 2015 7:23:52 GMT -7
From Amy at Univ of Florida - neuro tech via Linda:
Hmmmm. I have not experienced that exact scenario, but similar (usually due to hit by car) they just keep an indwelling catheter in and hospitalized for a week until sutures can come out and treat for UTI prophylactically due to in dwelling. Unless owner is a pro expressor and the dog is easily expressed.
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Post by Peyton on May 5, 2015 15:04:43 GMT -7
Hi, Allison - I am late to the party here, and you have probably gotten through the post-spay toileting, but my little Millie has IVDD (surgery in August) and was spayed in December. We continued to express her - gently, gently - after her surgery. I remember that she didn't have to go much during the first couple of days after her spay (thank goodness), so that helped. I had a brief pep talk from the vet after her surgery, and it all went smoothly. I'm not sure how important it was that four months had passed since her IVDD surgery, but I think that was a factor. Hope that Penny Lane is doing well now. Don't these little ones go through some incredible stuff? They are so resilient!
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But I'm also willing to admit this is where my knowledge gets lost. 
