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Post by Lynne & Bruno on May 13, 2021 15:56:04 GMT -7
[Please do not edit this post. Moderator is currently marking. Please add missing data in a new post in this same thread. Thanks! ] [Original subject line: Bruno, Diagnosed May 6, 2021 ] ☆ 1pain? Sometimes. Didn't know shivering/trembling was sign of pain. He's always had that since he was a puppy. [does PINK below apply to Bruno?]☐ reluctant to move much in crate such as shift positions or slow, ginger movements
☐ shivering, trembling ☐yelping when picked up or moved
☐ tight tense tummy ☐can’t find a comfortable position, appears restless
☐ Arched back ☐head held high or nose to the ground
Sometimes he holds his head so high that he's looking at the ceiling. Didn't know that was a sign or pain. He's done that a few times before he was diagnosed. [does PINK below apply to Bruno?]☐ Holding front or back leg flamingo style not wanting to bear weight
☐Not their normal perky selves?☆ 2 15.8 Prednisone 5mg - Every 12 hours. I whole tablet in morning and 1/2 tablet in evening.
Gabapentin 100mg - Every 12 hours I also add CBD/Hemp oil for Dogs & Cats to his cottage cheese. (Pet Releaf Organic)
🔘 steroid….what was the start date & dose?Thursday, May 6, 2021 I asked vet to give 1st dose, in case I had trouble giving it to him. . So, Vet gave "0.70 Dexamethasone Na Phos Injectable per ML" on May 6, 2021 I started giving the Prednisone on May 7, 2021 She said to do this for one week and if feeling better to give just one tablet every day. So, on Friday, May 12, 2021 [May 14? ?], I plan to give only 1 tablet of Prednisone per day.
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weight? ? y.o
5/6 back legs paralyzed
Dex inj. on 5/6
prednisone as of 5/7: 5mgs am/ 2.5mgs pm for 7 days, 5/14 test taper for: _pain / _neuro
gabapentin 100mgs 2xDay
CDB
strict rest started 5/7
needs GI tract protector, Pepcid AC, on board w/ PREDNISONE ! ] PEPCID AC: No, haven't given this to him in about a year.
(NOTE: Pepcid AC (famotidine) for dogs is 0.44mg per pound 30 mins before the anti-inflammatory and thereafter every 12 hours. www.1800petmeds.com/Famotidine-prod11171.html ) ☆ 3 -- Eating and drinking OK? YES NO nausea, not vomiting. He did refuse a blackberry , which he loves. -- Seems to be pooping ok now. He lost control on the day he was diagnosed and pooped a lot, even at the vet's office, from what I was told. That was around noon on Thursday, May 6, 2021 and did not poop again until Saturday evening, May 8, 2021.
☆ 4 Shih Tzu, Bruno, Lynne ☆ 5 She said IVDD and something about a disk problem. I have 2 x-rays. DVM☆ 6 Didn't seek conservative treatment. I didn't know what was wrong. May 6, 2021. He was seen as an emergency because he could not walk. His back legs wouldn't move and he dragged them. I chose this board because I cannot afford surgery. - no laps - no couches I'm just now learning he cannot sit in my lap or next to me.- no baths I had no choice but to give him a bath on Saturday morning, May 8, 2021. Let me explain, He was not urinating , just a little here and there and vet advised me to put puppy pad in his crate last Friday night to see how much.
Note: Bruno always uses puppy pads in bathroom, he doesn't go outside to potty. We live in a high rise studio apartment.
Anyway, I put the puppy pad in his crate and when I woke up to check on him, he had SOAKED the puppy pad and had was drenched in his urine.
I placed him in the kitchen sink in a dishpan, so he could not move around . Used warm water and WAHL shampoo , calming formula. He seemed to greatly enjoy it. --no sleeping with you - no dragging or meandering at potty times. - no PT - no chiro therapy ----Thank you for telling me that! ☆ 7 He is now walking into the bathroom on his own, urinating and pooping on his own. Previously he was sliding on on his stomach to the puppy pad to pee. He wanted to do this on his own, but after he peed all over himself, he started letting me hold his hind legs so he could pee. He is now doing this on his own. DOGs with BLADDER Carry to and from the recovery suite to the potty place and then allow a very few limited footsteps. Using a sling (long winter scarf, ace bandage, belt) will save your back and help to keep a wobbly dog’s back aligned and butt from tipping over. A harness and 6 foot leash is to control speed and keep footsteps to minimum as you stand in one spot. An ex-pen in the grass is an excellent alternative to minimizing footsteps with the physical and visual to indicate there will be no sniff festing going on!☆ 8 Yes, he is walking pretty good right now and yes, he wags his tail at times.
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Post by PaulaM on May 13, 2021 20:45:15 GMT -7
Lynne, welcome to the Forum. Good news is surgery would not be a likely consideration for a dog who can walk! Bruno is show that conservative treatment (resting the disc + meds + time) works! Your ability to read up more on IVDD so you can do your best job of home care will ensure conservative treatment will continue to work right up to graduation day. Please learn all you can about the need for strict rest, setting up the recovery suite and so much more: dodgerslist.com/2020/05/14/strict-rest-recovery-process/ If your Bruno is displaying signs of pain it is because there is only one pain med (gabapentin) . Pain meds last about 8 hrs. Bruno is only getting gabapentin every 12 hours. It is not really clear about pain and Bruno. Could you help clarify —please let us know what you currently are seeing that you believe is pain. List only signs you currently see in your reply and when it occurs (nearing next dose, when having to move such as potty time. -- shivering/trembling? Can be anxiety or can be pain. -- List only the things you observe in your next post. ⚙︎ shivering-trembling ⚙︎ yelping when picked up or moved
⚙︎ tight tense tummy ⚙︎ arched back, ears pinned bac ⚙︎ restless, can't find a comfortable position ⚙︎ slow or reluctant to move in suite such as shift positions ⚙︎ not their normal perky interested in life selves ➕if a neck disc: ◻︎ head held high/ nose to the ground ◻︎ looks up with just eyes and does not move head and neck easily. ◻︎ not eating due to painful chewing or in too much overall pain ◻︎ holds front or back leg up flamingo style not wanting to bear weight Call the vet if there are these signs of pain and advocate for pain meds. --- traMADol as the general analgesic --- methocarbamol used often with neck discs for muscle spasm pain --- gabapentin for nerve pain, if you are seeing pain advocate for Gabapentin 3x/day (every 8 hrs) -- An 8-day course (1 day Dex+ 7-day pred) of steroids is short amount of time to get all spinal cord swelling gone. So if you are seeing pain, CLEARLY it will not be time to do a taper test for-pain on Friday 5/14. Advocate for another course of prednisone up at the anti-inflammatory dose: anti-inflammatory dose for Prednisone is 5mgs 2x/day PEPCID AC (famotidine)
Pepcid AC 5mgs 2x/day needs to be on board for the duration of prednisone to protect against stomach acids. Dogs don't speak up at first signs of stomach damage like a person would. By the time we notice black or red blood in the stools, things can quickly go from bleeding ulcers to a life threatening perforated stomach. Proactive vets don’t wait til there are red flag signs of: lip licking of nausea, not eating, vomit, diarrhea leading to serious bleeding ulcers, red or black blood in stool due to the extra stomach acids anti-inflammatory drugs cause. Ask if your dog has any health issues to prevent use of Pepcid AC (famotidine)? (doesn’t need it, we wait til there is problem…are NOT answers to your question!) If you get a “no health” issues answer, then go to the grocery store to purchase over the counter Pepcid AC containing one single active ingredient (famotidine). HEALTH ISSUES: Mar Vista Vet reports: "Pepcid AC has a very limited potential for side effects, the reason of release to over-the-counter status. The dose of famotidine may require reduction in patients with liver or kidney disease as these diseases tend to prolong drug activities. There have been some reports of exacerbating heart rhythm problems in patients who already have heart rhythm problems so it may be prudent to choose another means of stomach acid control in heart patients.”
Excellent reading about use of anti-inflammtories during a disc epidode: dodgerslist.com/2020/04/18/steroids-vs-nsaids/ CDB If your vet did not prescribe, then would advise caution to not use it. Please read up on why here: dodgerslist.com/2020/02/24/devices-supplements/%E2%80%8B?highlight=CDBCONCERNS--Let us know when Pepcid AC is on board for the duration of prednisone -- Let us know if CBD was vet prescribed and for what specific reason -- Let us know you no longer allow Bruno to walk to the bathroom. Limited back/neck movement means you would be carrying him to and from the potty spot. -- Did the vet say the disc was in the neck or the back? -- Was Bruno given chiro or PT since the disc episode on 5/6? -- Let us know if pain is currently showing by listing what you observe. |
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Post by Lynne & Bruno on May 15, 2021 18:13:56 GMT -7
Ordered [available in any grocery store] Pepcid, but meant to mention Bruno takes probiotics with digestive enzymes since he was a puppy.
-- Vet said it [name of med?] was fine to use, it helps with anxiety, trembling.
-- Let us know you no longer allow Bruno to walk to the bathroom. Limited back/neck movement means you would be carrying him to and from the potty spot.
This is difficult. I'm on oxygen 24/7 and at first, I was taking him out of the crate and putting him back in.
We live in small studio apartment. He was walking fine after a few days of Prednisone.
All was pretty good until Friday night, May 14th, 2021.
He is in pain right now. Let me explain. I live in a high rise and we had a fire last night. I had to pick him up, place him in a cart, go outside and get away from the noise. When we returned, and as I was fixing to pick him up to get him out of the cart, I could tell he was having a problem. I think going outside set him back. He was always in the cart. I've tried to make the cart comfortable, with blankets for some cushioning.
-- neck or the back? The back. I have x rays.
-- chiro or PT since the disc episode on 5/6? No.
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Post by PaulaM on May 15, 2021 19:31:30 GMT -7
Lynne, your oxygen is a long term use thing? Or only used due to fire 5/14?
Prednisone began the taper test to find out if there is still pain or any neuro issues on 5/14! To me this clearly explains the reason for your reporting pain AND sounds as though you are also reporting increased or new neuro diminishment.
Your job is to alert the vet at once to get Prednisone back up on anti-inflammatory level which for a 15.8 lbs dog would be 5mgs every 12 hours (2x/day). Advocate for another course of pred (7- or 14-day course). 5mgs am and 2.5mgs pm is lower than an anti-inflammatory dose.
Gabapentin (for nerve pain) may need to be Rx'd every 8 hrs and even other meds to address muscle spasm pain (methocarbamol) and one as a general analgesic (traMADol).
As of 5/15, can Bruno still walk (although he should only be taking footsteps, not walking)? Describe what you observe that makes you say "set him back, he was" having a problem." Remember we are behind a monitor and can't see what you see. Details help us understand things.
1) legs can no longer move?
2) can't get up in to a stand position?
3) paws knuckle under?
-- Let us know if CBD was vet prescribed and for what specific reason
-- The cart trip was a 1 time thing due to the 5/14 fire and having evacuate via elevator, but no stairs, right? You potty him inside on a pee pad... you do not take him outside to potty? Sorry just want to make sure I have the correct picture
-- Clarify you do NOT let Bruno walk from recovery suite to the bathroom. Instead place a pee pad right outside his recovery suite so he can pee there with minimal footsteps taken.
-- Tell us what you observe that makes use the word "pain." Again remember we are behind a computer screen.
Let us know prednisone has been Rx'd for another course asap.
This really should not wait til vet reopens on Monday way too many hours since 5/14 to 5/17!!! OR do you have enough pred to go back to Pred twice a day til Monday morning when the vet reopens so you can take care of this over the phone? Transports are risky of too much movement for the back. Vets who know IVDD, understand adjustment of meds via phone is a good thing.
Pepcid AC would be on board for the duration of prednisone.
Adjustment pain meds for full comfort.
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Post by Lynne & Bruno on May 18, 2021 10:06:29 GMT -7
Sorry for the delayed response. I was put on supplemental oxygen 24/7 about a year ago.
Prednisone was prescribed at 5mg -- 1 tablet in the morning and 1/2 tablet in the evening, 12 hours apart.
Moving the dog during the fire set him back last Friday night, May 14, 2021.
Already contacted vet for more Prednisone and asked for 2 tablets a day.
Also requested a refill of Gabapentin. Management where I live will deliver the refills sometime today, because the elevators are still not working. And I am unable to climb 8 flights of stairs up & down. (The fire sprinklers apparently malfunctioned and flooded the floor below me , plus the water gushed down both elevator shafts.
I was wondering about Tramadol. I will ask for it.
Noticed when we came back inside Friday night, May 14, 2021, Bruno was very still in the cart. I was able to pick him up and place him in the crate and he remained very still in the back part of his crate.
I did as you suggested and placed a puppy pad right outside of his crate to where he only took about 2 - 3 steps. He looked up at me like he was very thankful. Sunday evening , May 16, he seemed much better.
Yes, he can stand up and walk.
I have been giving Bruno CBD oil for over a year for anxiety & to help with his tummy. This particular CBD is for dogs and it is is organic. I advised the vet he was on CBD oil and she said ok.
Yes, the cart trip was a one time thing since the fire. And no stairs.
I was probably the last person who was able to ride the elevator before the water started gushing down the elevator shafts..... The firefighters saw Bruno and my oxygen, I was scared the battery was going to die and they allowed me in the elevator to go back to my apartment
When I had my home, Bruno used potty on puppy pads, outside and even self taught himself to use the cat litter. Now, since we are in a highrise, and because of grass allergies, the puppy pads are placed in the bathroom. 99% of the time, he uses the bathroom, rather than going outside.
Yes, I did that, and he seemed very thankful! But now, since he is feeling better, he wants to go to bathroom. From his crate to the bathroom, it is only about 10 - 12 human footsteps.
Observations for "pain 5/14" Getting in the back of the crate and remaining motionless. But he's much better now.
More prednisone and gabapentin will be delivered today. I still have a few pills left, cause I don't him to run out of meds. The pepcid is downstairs. I will ask management if they will bring that to me when they deliver the meds.
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weight? ? y.o
5/6 back legs paralyzed
Dex inj. on 5/6
prednisone as of 5/7: 5mgs am/ 2.5mgs pm for 7 days, 5/14 test taper for: √5/14 pain / _neuro
as of 5/18 waiting on new Rx ?mg ?x/day for ?days
gabapentin 100mgs 2x/day
traMADol waiting as of 5/18??
CDB
strict rest started 5/7
5/18 can stand and walk
Pepcid AC as of 5/18: ?mg ?x/day ]
Since the short move outside seemed to set him back, I canceled his vet appointment he had for Thursday.
Besides, I can't afford another vet bill. It was $420 when he was diagnosed.
Thank you!!!
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Post by PaulaM on May 18, 2021 15:13:03 GMT -7
Lynne, what a frightening experience in your building. Glad things are getting back to normal. And so glad to hear for Bruno, too, he will pee on a pad outside of his crate. 10-12 human footsteps is too much movement for Bruno's early healing disc. See what you can do to encourage using a pad just outside of his suite. Or maybe you can move his suite adjacent to the bathroom door? When he is inside of the bathroom, the area to pee in should not encourage walking too much — only the very fewest of footsteps to get the job done. If you need to be able to move the crate here and there, some castor wheels could be the thing! MidWest Universal Crate Casters: Many on line vendors or maybe your local pet store will carry. Four casters for about $10. When the med refills come up to your apartment, do remind us for each med: - dose in mgs; - how often to give. - For the prednisone let us know for how many days will the 5mgs twice a day be given? |
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Post by Lynne & Bruno on May 20, 2021 4:59:31 GMT -7
Thank you for telling me about the crate casters! This should help a lot!
I had to pick Bruno up this morning, May 20th & take him to bathroom. He refused to come out of the crate and needed or wanted me to pick him up.
I got the refills [5/19]yesterday.
They said I could give the ▲Gabapentin every 8 hours.
AND the other refill for Prednisone said to take only once a day. I will call vet's office as soon as they open.
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15.8 lbs ? ? y.o
5/6 back legs paralyzed
Dex inj. on 5/6
prednisone as of 5/7: 5mgs am/ 2.5mgs pm for 7 days, 5/14 test taper for: √5/14 pain / _neuro
as of 5/19 ?mg ?x/day taper dose refill!!
gabapentin 100mgs ▲3x/day
CDB
strict rest started 5/7
5/18 can stand and walk
Pepcid AC as of 5/18: ?mg ?x/day ]
Questions: 1. Not sure why to ask for Tramadol, since Gabapentin is given for pain.
2. To clarify, give one half of Pepcid once a day or twice a day?
Thank you for your time & help!
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Post by PaulaM on May 20, 2021 8:47:24 GMT -7
Lynne, hope to hear signs of pain (reluctance to move out of crate) are gone with the adjustment of gabapentin and your STRONGLY advocating for Prednisone be put back up to an anti-inflammatory dose.
Gabapentin addresses one kind of pain: nerve pain
traMADol addresses over all general pain
methocarbamol addresses pain from muscle contractions.
With a disc epidode it is typical to cover each of the three sources of pain in a multi-modal approach.
Dogs tend to hide pain as a protective mechanism.
A lack of outward evidence does not always indicate a dog is not experiencing pain.
So when a disease is expected to be painful, vets who know IVDD act like it is and cover all three sources of pain.
PREDNISONE
With Charlie in pain, it is not time to be in a low taper dose. Advocate for Prednsone to be at the anti-inflammatory level dose for a 15.8 lbs dog. anti-inflammatory level prednisone = 5mgs every 12 hours (2x/day). The vet would indicate how long that course would be (maybe a 7- or a 14-day course). Then pred gets lowered to taper doses as a test for pain.
At the end of pred course pain meds are stopped as the pred taper begins. VERY CONFUSING why your vet gave Rx for pred taper (?mgs once a day) yet increased pain med? ? ?
PEPCID AC
5mgs twice a day. Confirm you are now giving.
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Post by Lynne & Bruno on May 20, 2021 9:49:49 GMT -7
Yes, gave Bruno his [name of med?] half tablet this morning.
Tramadol, Gabapentin and Prednisone all relieve different pain issues?
Just want to make sure I understand.
Waiting for vet to call me back.
P.S. I don't want to sound like a know it all when speaking to vet, I was just going to tell her how I found this forum. Any suggestions?
What is methacarbanol?
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Post by PaulaM on May 20, 2021 10:15:41 GMT -7
Which med did you give 1/2 tablet? Best is to always use med name. Give the dose in mgs. Tell how often that med is to be given. Then there is no chance of confusion/error on our part. You and your vet can learn more about www.Dodgerslist.com over at our main website here: dodgerslist.com/2020/04/20/education-team-ivdd The Forum is a branch of Dodgerslist located on a different site where we can comment to you one on one about your dog.
Read the above intro letter and then print it out to introduce us to your your vet. dodgerslist.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/vet-Intro.pdfThere are other free IVDD literature tools you can order for your vet to use with his client such as the "Strict Rest Recovery Process" brochure shown here: dodgerslist.com/free-literature-2 --Prednisone works over many days (7 to 30 days at the anti-inflammatory dose level--- excluding any taper days) to get rid of painful spinal cord swelling. Thus prednisone is not a pain reliever. --Pain meds in the mean time give comfort from pain in an hour or less WHEN the dose and frequency are correctly prescribed for the dog's needs. Usual that would be promptly every 8 hrs. -- There are three sources of pain usually associated with a disc episode. 1) gabapentin deals specifically with nerve pain. 2) methocarbamol deals specifically with muscle contraction pain 3) traMADol acts as a overall analgesic |
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Post by Lynne & Bruno on May 26, 2021 13:34:08 GMT -7
Thank you.
Update: Bruno had his 1st laser therapy this morning. He really enjoyed it!
The lady who gave the laser therapy suggested injections of Adequann into the muscle.
Twice a week for 1st month
Then every 2 weeks for 1 month
And once a month thereafter.
I haven't seen this on Dodgers List and wondering if I should consider this.
Thank you.
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Post by Romy & Frankie on May 26, 2021 13:49:15 GMT -7
Adequan shots can be used as an additional form of pain relief with a disc episode. It should be used with caution in dogs with kidney or liver issues. Adequan treatment may be helpful because a disc episode causes the disc to change shape due to bulging, tearing, etc. This then can increase stress on the joints (facet joints) which causes pain
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Post by PaulaM on May 26, 2021 20:29:05 GMT -7
Lynne, please provide missing information noted in pink: prednisone as of 5/7: 5mgs am/ 2.5mgs pm for 7 days, 5/14 test taper for: √5/14 pain / _neuro
as of 5/19: ?mg ?x/day a taper dose refill!!
gabapentin 100mgs 3x/day
CDB
strict rest started 5/7
5/18 can stand and walk
Pepcid AC as of 5/18: ?mg ?x/day
Do you now, currently see any signs of pain nearing next dose of gabapentin?SIGNS OF PAIN:
⚙︎ shivering-trembling ⚙︎ yelping when picked up or moved ⚙︎ tight tense tummy ⚙︎ arched back, ears pinned bac ⚙︎ restless, can't find a comfortable position ⚙︎ slow or reluctant to move in suite such as shift positions ⚙︎ not their normal interested in life around them selves
If there is pain, then it is the use of the basic pain meds (gabapentin, methocarbamol and traMADol) that are used. And prednisone would not continue to taper, but increase back to the anti-inflammatory level 5mgs 2x/day.
With a dog who is walking transporting to the vet for laser or acupuncture or Adequan injects many times a week is risky business of too much movement to the healing disc. If you want those, the better idea is to hire a traveling vet to come to your home. Conservative treatment is all about limited movement, strict rest inside of a recovery suite, only out of the suite for potty times.
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Post by Lynne & Bruno on Jul 17, 2021 12:31:30 GMT -7
Bruno is doing much,much better! We are still moving slow, because I don't want to rush it.. Don't think he will ever be back to 100%. He is still getting laser therapy. A lady comes to our home and she's very affordable. He hasn't been outside since the fire on May 14th. Too hot anyway. And he doesn't seem to mind using puppy pads in our bathroom. He desperately needs to be groomed,but we're working on it. Working with same people who have been grooming him and we're all concerned about Bruno being moved in the wrong way. We'll figure it out! Thanks again and again and again!!!! |
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Post by Romy & Frankie on Jul 17, 2021 13:19:38 GMT -7
Great news that Bruno is doing so well. You are right in taking it slowly, with Bruno going back to his regular activities. Here is a sample schedule to slowly introduce him back to family life and physical activity:
Ways to make your home safer for an IVDD dog:
Make your home back friendly with ramps instead of stairs, blocking off furniture and training to keep all four paws on the ground:
Lots more ideas and tips in living with an IVDD dog: |
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Post by Lynne & Bruno on Sept 2, 2021 7:21:23 GMT -7
Please help.
When Bruno was first diagnosed, he wasn't pooping everyday, but it seemed to get better for awhile.
Now, it [poop] is once every few days, that he can poop, even when I give him Miralax.
My point is the pooping matter started with the IVDD.
He threw up yesterday (mostly foam). And today, I fixed his favorite scrambled eggs. He ate half of it and shortly afterwards, he threw it all up.
He hasn't pooped since August 31st about noon and today is Sept 2nd, despite the fact I added a little Miramax.
Also he has been sleeping in his crate UNDER his crate pad.
Any advice?
Thank you for any help.
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Post by PaulaM on Sept 2, 2021 8:16:53 GMT -7
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Post by PaulaM on Sept 2, 2021 8:36:25 GMT -7
Lynne, just reading about Miramax.
Common side effects of Miralax: Irritation Of The Rectum A Sleep Disorder Excessive Thirst Nausea Vomiting Stomach Cramps Abdominal Bloating A Feeling Of General Discomfort Called Malaise Intense Abdominal Pain Upper Abdominal Pain In general we advise with constipation to use plain pureed pumpkin. It is a food and has nutrients plus the all important high fiber that can help with EITHER constipation or with loose stools. The amount of water makes the difference. Pumpkin being a food is kind to the stomach and gut. NOTE: alternatives are really ripe mashed fresh pear, just take off the peel off; microwaved and mashed peeled sweet potatoe, -- To loosen the stool, add equal parts water to each kibble meal and soak overnight. At mealtime add 1.5 teaspoons of plain canned pureed pumpkin 1x a day. -- To firm up the stool add 1.5 teaspoons plain canned pureed pumpkin 1x a day to kibble. Give a teaspoon of pumpkin for every 10 pounds of body weight. If Bruno still weighs 15.8 pounds, then he would get 1 and 1/2 teaspoons once a day. It sounds like Bruno either has a reaction to Miramax or has a digestive problem that your vet may be able to figure out. Clearly Bruno does not feel well if he is wanting to hide under his crate pad. Let us know what your vet recommends. |
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Post by Lynne & Bruno on Sept 2, 2021 15:45:49 GMT -7
Thank you.
I am trying goats milk tomorrow, just a tablespoon full. Working with a holistic type vet & holistic pet store.
He doesn't eat kibbles anymore, because of food allergies, it gives him chronic ear infections. Really bad. Started him on a raw diet,but gently cooked food and his ear started looking better after 10 days. Also treated him with Claro in both ears and hoping the new diet will cure his chronic ear infections once and for all!
But wanting him to poop!
Thank you!
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