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Post by Claudia & Elvis on Sept 20, 2017 23:49:40 GMT -7
Hi,
Here at guest forum I can create post but I also registrated completly but at the other forums I cannot create post? Sorry for my English, I am from The Netherlands :-)
Thanks!
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Post by Marjorie on Sept 21, 2017 4:53:30 GMT -7
Hi, Claudia. You should be able to create a post on any of the boards on this forum - conservative, surgery, etc. - the same as you did here. However, you can post here on this thread that you've created and we can move it to the appropriate board. Click on any of the boards, then click on "Create Thread" at the top of the page. Or you can post your information or questions right here.
Looking forward to hearing more about your dog and having the chance to offer you support.
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Post by Claudia & Elvis on Sept 21, 2017 11:57:06 GMT -7
Hi Marjorie, Last week [SEP 14] (14-09-17) complete stress because my poodle Elvis had an acute neckhernia and was paralised from neck down (started by trauma the day before (13-09-17). Luckely it was operable and surgury last friday [SEP 15](15-09-17) went well but his blader didnt empty at all. This morning (21-09-17) again depressing news that it could take maby weeks or even moths to heal (not even sure if it heal at all). So I began to google for info how to empty his bladder by my self. Ofcourse I will get instruction by vet but people with experiance have more info and tips that could be helpfull. Beginning of this afternoon we got super news from the clinic that Elvis peed a little bit by himself and even lifted his leg also!!! So at the end of the afternoon we could come and take him home. He still needs allot of rest and small bits of walking on leash but thats normal. We got this advice = 3 weeks of complete crate rest and mini walks 5 times a day for 5 minutes per walk on leash After the 3 weeks more minutes per walk and slowly more and more but still on leash till about 8 weeks. I prefer 10 weeks, dont know why but his is 8 years and since he was young 1 year old poodle already several hernia like issues (no surgery only allot of crate rest and mini walks on leash with pain meds). We go also every 3 months for the last couple of years to chiropractor with allot of succes. So we hopefully can go there next week again for first sesion (she does also accupunctuur and laser). Meds = For tommorrow and day after (22+23 sept) 1x Metacam chewtablet 2,5 mg per day in morning = anti inflamitory + anti pain For tommorrow and 2 days after (22+23+24 sept) 2x a day (in morning and evening) 1,5 Clavaseptin tablet 250 mg = antibiotics [Moderator's note: please do not modify
63.93lbs
Metacam as of Sep 22: for 2 days
Clavaseptin (antibiotic)] What is now my question since his bladder luckly started working again? I would like to do fysiotherapy for his overall condition (muscle and stamina), since he is a little bit overweight and a little bit a potatocoach. And prefibly with a watertank tretmill type. Is this wise and if so at what point after surgury in weeks or months? And any other advice on revilidation is welcome ofcourse! Thanks for reading my post  |
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Post by PaulaM on Sept 21, 2017 12:42:40 GMT -7
Claudia, sounds like the relieving of pressure to the disc via surgery has had some excelent results. How much does Elvis weigh? Is he a standard Poodle? Elvis has bladder control! What about he front legs, his back legs. Can he wobbly walk? Can he move them in a walking motion? Can he raise himself up in to a stand position? I would be EXTREMELY hesitate to do any chiro from now on with Elvis. Dr. Isaacs, DVM, ACVIM (Neurology) explains why chiropractic therapy is contradinated with a dog suspected of being born with IVDD or one known to have it: www.dodgerslist.com/literature/chiropractic.htmIF the surgeon directs water therapy often it would be when the stitches have been taken out in about 2 weeks. If you have told us that that Elvis can use all four legs in walking, then often the PT will just be a walk to the potty place. We look forward to more of your answers so we better understand just where Elvis is neurologically in his leg functions. |
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Post by Claudia & Elvis on Sept 22, 2017 5:22:10 GMT -7
Hi Paula, Yes, surgeory went super! This is the specialist whoes operated on him (very nice man) = detweedelijn.nl/read/ons-team/id/2238700 (If you click with right mouse button you can choose translate text.) Elvis is 29 kg [63.93lbs] (little bit overweight) and he is a standard poodle yes. He walks a bit wobbly but each day a bit better. He can raise himself in sit and stand yes. When he walks sometimes you here nails scrats over the street. The chiro will be for laser, lymp drainage and accupunture and not for manipulate the disks. (Although she helps doxins with hernia's also.) The water therapy is my idea and only will start after a month or later in consultation with fysiotherapist, we will see how it goes then. Surgeon himself says 5 walks a day and 5 minuts per walk (today we do only 2,5 minutes and that went well). Thanks! |
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Post by PaulaM on Sept 22, 2017 7:19:46 GMT -7
Claudia, how excellent to hear Elvis is able to walk quite well. The wobbliness should improve with time and his brain’s ability to better manage nerve messaging to the paw to not scuff the ground, too! Would you consider helping another trying to make decisions… We have a directory where you can share surgical info. Here is where to share your dog's info: dodgerslist.boards.net/board/10/guidelines-posting Country: Holland (Netherlands) Hospital: Address: Cost: Date of surgery: What was included in cost (MRI?, days stay, ER? PT? meds for home, sling, etc.) Comments: |
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Post by Claudia & Elvis on Sept 22, 2017 13:38:17 GMT -7
Aditional note = since a couple of years people with hernia's cannot have only bed rest in the first weeks after surury anymore in The Netherlands. Now a days after surgury they have to get up on there feet the same or next day. And next to bed rest they have to start walking and fysio right away.
Everything in small repititions during the whole day and every day an extra exersize or longer or more repititions. They go home very fast after surgury (when they can walk a stairs is the critirea) and thats most of the time within a few days. This is also the case with elderly and a new hip (they go home within a week or 10 days or so).
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Post by PaulaM on Sept 22, 2017 14:28:55 GMT -7
Claudia, the key with PT is that when you are doing it with Elvis, it is slow, supervised and controlled. When you are not doing the surgeon directed PT, the Elvis is back in his recovery suite. Lots to heal after a such a major surgery. Some surgeons here in the United States will direct PT a day or two after surgery, it all depends on the dog's situation they saw during the operation.
Walking stairs may be something that you would now avoid when possi ble with Elvis, a 64 lbs dog.. Stairs add impact to the back and pressure to discs.
Thank you for your addition to our Member Directory dodgerslist.boards.net/board/10/guidelines-posting . We have members from all over the world, your entry may well help someone in the future!
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Post by Claudia & Elvis on Sept 22, 2017 23:48:51 GMT -7
No stairs for Elvis and he is now already a week after surgury when he got the 5x 5min walk a day.
We do 4x 4 min a day because thats better for him for now. Per day we observe and see how it goes.
He eats/drinks/potty/sleeps all good and thats most important, the rest will come in time, step by step.
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Post by Marjorie on Sept 23, 2017 4:38:20 GMT -7
Great attitude to have, Claudia! You're absolutely right, take it step by step, one day at a time. So glad to hear he's doing well.
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